gandhy, let's start with the child bride issue. is this something that the u.n. and the united states can get a handle on? because it's so widespread, it's so cultural in its orientation. the west ha is always criticized for trying to mess with culture in the east, middle east and africa and elsewhere. what do you think? >> well, i think there have been some very famous and knowledgeable people over the years who said that you can look at a country's advancement and decide really whether they're an advancing country or not based on how they treat women and girls. and if indeed we want these countries to be our partners in the world, if we want them to advance and be -- and if they want to advance and be on the world stage with other countries, they have to change the way that they treat women and girls and it was to start with girls. >> why do i have less hope about that? >i mean, the taliban, in the case of malala they arrested three people, not the guy hoe apparently led so far, but i mean, you know, they still can get away with this stuff. >> right, and that's what i was about to say.